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Restored / Reconstructed / Recreated Lordships and Barons titles

Contents:
1. The method
2. Limitation Act (1980)
3. Unbroken Chain
4. Lordships are land
5. Bona Vacantia
6. Advertisements in The Gazette
7. Excerpt from a lawyer
7.1 The contract and The Lord of Hatherden
8. Conclusion

1. The company and its method

An English limited company (LTD) offers so-called "Reconstructed Lordships", which are restored with the help of lawyers in accordance with applicable British law. This is how it works: The company is looking for old "dormant Lordships / Baron titles" (neglected) that have not been used or used for centuries or a thousand years. According to their statement, from the website, they copy the old rights of the existing title and create a new right on it and thus create a new coexisting title. The company can be quickly found with the words "Counsel and Manorial, Reconstructed Lordships" on Google.

Note: They have meanwhile removed the words "Reconstructed Lordships" from the website and from their complete blog posts so that they cannot be found through my website. I book this as a small victory. But the words "Counsel Manorial" still work.

Update from 20.August.2019: It seems like a second company is using the same method. Because they also use the "The Gazette" newspaper and insist that the "titles" are restored. The domain contains the two terms "Manorial" and "Titles". Caution is required.

2. The Limitation Act (1980)

The Limitation Act of 1980 testifies that no Lordships can be restored. The Land Registration Act of 2002 and the Case Law of 2009 also confirm this.

"Statute and recent Case Law is clear that incorporeal hereditaments (here meaning Lordships) cannot be claimed or prescribed: the Limitations Act (1980) and the Land Registration Act (2002), and Case Law in 2009."
"msgb, What is a manorial lordship?", under:
http://www.msgb.co.uk/buying_advice.html (Retrieved on 01.03.2019)

"...'Restored Lordship of the Manor Title(s)'. As we know, under the Limitations Act (1980) Lordships of the Manor, being incorporeal hereditaments, cannot be restored or reclaimed."
"msgb, What is a manorial lordship?", under:
http://www.msgb.co.uk/buying_advice.html (Retrieved on 01.03.2019)

3. Unbroken Chain

A genuine Lordship must have properly recorded documents that have been verified since the creation of the Lordship (most of them from 1066). These documents can not be proven by a dormant Lordship that has been reconstructed because they have no genuine documents from the past included. Only the new ones and they are worthless. The respective company reconstructs Lordships they are only one time mentioned in official records, most of them around 1066. And that is all and no more records are in official deeds or papers available. Thus, restored Lordships and Barons titles are not real Lordships or Barons titles, since from the time when the Lordship or Baron title was dormant there were no documented documents and all original documents are missing from the year 1066.

A reassignment or restoration would only be possible through the crown (the sovereign ruler) or the state.
Restores by companies should be avoided.

Lordships are land

Feudal Lord of the Manor Lordships, are classified as a piece of non-physical land -English property law, Limitation Act, Land Registration Act, that is, Lordships are traded as a land (estate).

"Under the laws of real property in England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and the Irish Republic, Lordships of the manor are known as "estates in land" and in Courts, where they may crop up in cases to do with real property, they are often simply called "land""
"msgb, What is a manorial lordship?", under:
http://www.msgb.co.uk/buying_advice.html (Retrieved on 01.03.2019)

Further infos here:
What are Lordships?

5. Bona Vacantia

Since English feudal Lordships are classified as Incorporeal hereditament, estates and as personal property, if there is no heir, these possessions will be inherited to the Crown.
Thus, it is impossible that a limited company can restore feudal lordships.

"When someone dies with no will or known family, their property passes to the Crown as ownerless property (or bona vacantia). It can be any kind of property, like buildings, money or personal possessions."
"Claim or refer an unclaimed estate", under:
https://www.gov.uk/unclaimed-estates-bona-vacantia (Retrieved on 01.03.2019)

6. Advertisements in The Gazette

How recovered Lordships & Barons titles are marketed.
The company uses anouncing in the "The Gazette" newspaper, which has existed since 1665 and is officially used by the British crown for its announcements.
This newspaper is a very serious newspaper, which is operated by the "National Archive".

A publication in this newspaper about the restoration and transfer of the Lordship and / or Baron title to the new owner thus gives the buyer a good feeling that it is a validated (genuine) restoration.

The publications are public and can be viewed at the following link.
The Gazette, https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices

All the announcements on the The Gazette website are published under the "Open Government License v3.0".

7.1 Excerpt from a lawyer

An English lawyer states the following about the contract of that company: that the contract is illegally constructed and that the contract is vulnerable. The lawyer also reports that he met a man in the court who bought a title from that company. The client wanted the judge to address him with his title, the judge refused on the grounds that he could not understand where the restored title came from and who the previous title owners were. Among other things, the lawyer notes that the document does not tell him that the seller currently owns the Lordship. Nor could he determine how they restored the Lordship title and how they restore it and how they can claim it.

7.2. The contract and Lord of Hatherden

To be able to write this article and to get a contract, I bought myself one of the titles in question. I am the proud "Lord of Hatherden, in the Parish of Andover with Foxcott in Hampshire. The brazen thing is that this title is already on sale again, only with the addition" or Kings Hatherden ", ie Lord of Hatherden or Kings Hatherden. This says it all.

I did a thorough search of the contract and found that the company did not use a single paragraph from any law book. The only thing they have done according to the contract is that they have searched for the Lordship / Baron title, if this is dormant. They have developed a "unique methodology" to research titles, restore them under any law, and have them verified by lawyers who are knowledgeable in feudal titles and land rights. I did a thorough research for the lawyers and not one lawyer says in their portfolio and vita that they are real estate lawyers and that they are quite familiar with the feudal law. Anyone who has undergone such training will probably also include them in their portfolio. One of them is primarily a lawyer for family law and apparently has no idea of real estate.

9. Conclusion:

English Lordships can not be restored because they are classified as Incorporeal hereditament (not physical possession) and the restoration is not possible through the Limitation Act (1980). The Lordships are usually inherited, whether the heir knows about it is not of concern. In case of doubt, the state inherits or the crown (Bona Vacantia).

The contract of the respective company should be doubted, since an English lawyer is completely correct that the contract does not show how the company can restore and claim the Lordships. I can confirm this, because I have such a contract and no paragraphs are provided that would allow one to restore a Lordship.

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